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Post by Faeora on Aug 15, 2007 20:32:57 GMT -5
You guys, even if it may not seem like it, I wasn't born in this country either, but I rose above it so trust me gandalf, I "know of what I'm speaking" I was born in germany, raised in russia and france until I was about 11, then came to the states...so don't just jump to conclusions about me either...just because it may seem like i'm english, i'd prefer not to be stereotyped, or for that matter, "categorized" into the "picky americans" genre...just so you know...
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Post by Neurion on Aug 15, 2007 22:37:46 GMT -5
Ha although this thread is entertaining i think its time for the friendly neighbourhood Neurion to visit. It's gone a little off topic, if your going to argue about the actual battle then do so but don't make any personal attacks. Faeora AND others please cut Gandalf some slack on his grammar, hes trying his best and as he doesn't live in an english speaking country it does make it alot harder for him to get his grammar right. If you see mistakes in his thread then pm him and explain whats wrong or pm a admin/moderator who can then edit them. He never called you anything about being a 'picky american' or even anything to do with America so i don't see how that is relevant to the thread. Try keep things on topic and keep personal insults to yourself. Bla bla bla *Hugs all round*
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Post by Khamûl on Aug 16, 2007 4:39:58 GMT -5
Neurion, what she said about the "picky american" category was what she believed to have been implied by Gandalf. It's best to send a pm and tell somebody what is wrong with their grammer, sometimes they will take it as a personal insult but most of the time they will appreciate it as they will then know not to get it wrong next time.
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Post by Neurion on Aug 16, 2007 5:58:54 GMT -5
I don't like to do it but im adding rules to this thread.
1/ All posts from now on must be ontopic.
2/ Personal attacks will not be tolerated. If you have an issue take it up with myself or another Member of the MER staff and we will sort it out.
If any of you break these rules then your posts will first get a warning from myself. Break it again and your post and any further off topic posts will be deleted without warning.
I didn't want to have to make these rules but things are getting out of hand. You can argue all you want on the battle but no offtopic posts.
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Thanks MER staff
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Post by Khamûl on Aug 16, 2007 6:10:35 GMT -5
I have a problem, in the FAQ it says: Q: Can you have dragons in a army?
A: Yes, though only one. Only one dragon can be present per army (from whatever land). Basically Only one dragon is allowed per league (Also dragons can only be present within evil armies, it would be sad to hear that Lorien had a dragon. Therefore Eagles, whom are just as powerful as Dragons are allowed within the good leagues). Though strict rules are present for the accepting of dragons. (Please Read Rules: Dragons) Also note, Dragons of the fourth age, are no where near as powerful as Smaug (The First Created Dragon-Evil) Also, please read this, as it may be helpful: www.glyphweb.com/Arda/d/dragons.htmlQ: Could someone have the eagles as dragons? A: Yes. The Eagles have played an exceptional role in LOTR. There is no mentioning that they have died out. (If you know of anything relating to the Eagles, please don’t hesitate to alert an admin). Q: Since the Fell Beasts were destroyed, can the Nazgûl ride Dragons? If so, when more than one Nazgûl is in a battle, can only one be mounted? A: I see no wrong with this. Yes, the Nazgûl can ride Dragons, and if they are present in battle, same rule applies. Only one, per league. If two leagues participate in the battle then two dragons can be present. Q: So only allowed one eagle allowed per battle??
A: The Eagles are exactly the same as Dragons. (Please Read above_In this battle there are eight Eagles (nine counting Landroval), I remember reading somewhere that you could have eight Eagles in a battle, but it seems it has been editted to one. Due to all the arguments, I think we should all read the battle rules (and all the others) and restart the battle. |
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Post by Gandalf on Aug 16, 2007 7:05:17 GMT -5
Restart the battle hmm? But that would require alot of new work and what about Cristin who has gone on vacation now and all else who have posted? It would be alot to restore again and the people would know the enemy tactics from before, you know.
lol actually I though the same about those eagles, I thought they could be 8 in one battle since it didnt say much about it but as it seems on AFQ just one dragon and one eagle in one battle. Maybe we should start on new as Khamul suggest, I dunno really.
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Post by Neurion on Aug 16, 2007 7:11:58 GMT -5
Not sure on restarting the battle would be wierd, i think just continue but if the rules about 1eagle and 1 dragon are correct then change the posts. As you wouldn't be able to have 8 eagles would you? If you do restart battle from when you arrive at thet gates it would be fine as cristin has given control of units to Khamul. For all those participating vote for what you think. I personaly vote no as it would be confusing and make the battle so far seem like a waste of time.
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Post by Khamûl on Aug 16, 2007 7:56:07 GMT -5
I'm fine with keeping the 8 (or nine - Landroval) eagles if (as I have just noticed) I get to keep my dragon and Faeora gets to keep hers...  |
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Post by Gurth Ironclaw on Aug 16, 2007 8:06:22 GMT -5
O My GOD! What kind of Idiot thread is this. Good grief. Gandalf and Faeora holy crap. You are both, i assume grown adults, get over it. Well mainly Faeora, Gandalf my be wrong in certain things but he isn't cussing like a sailor. That and if i have to read about another person correcting another persons spelling error i am going to snap. Everyone is going to make mistakes in their posts, give me a break. Ehh you two should go get a room and discuss it yourselves.
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Ok as to the Eagles and Dragons bit that i started. There should be allowed to be more than one eagle, considering the simple fact that there was more than one eagle. As for the Dragons, i personally don't think there should be any, however, since there is i will state this. Dragons are not evenly matched with eagles. DUH! ( Lol ). Come on. A dragon has armor all over its body, fire breath, most could set people into trance like states. Others such as Gualaung whose name i can't spell right was the king of all the dragons. He actually freaking erased Turin's sisters memory to where she couldn't reMember her name and she only retained it when the dragon died. Course then she killed herself. Lol. Anyway, my point is is that there can be more than one eagle because one dragon could take down one eagle and combat many eagles just to make it fair. I mean come on. What does an eagle have? Talons and a beak.....................wow. So thats all i have to say. DWARVES RULE!
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Post by Faeora on Aug 16, 2007 8:10:45 GMT -5
(we settled it already ironclaw -_-)
And the thing that really confused me was that in the rules of role-playing thread, it just completely contradicts itself, it says something along the lines of "You may only have one dragon 'per assault'" yet it continues to say something like "Only 1 dragon can have wings, the rest must walk" erm..if you can only have 1 per assault, then how could you have any more than...that...The rules aren't very clear, they span different aspects throughout like 5 different threads
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Post by Gurth Ironclaw on Aug 16, 2007 8:14:04 GMT -5
Yeah........your right on that. It makes no sense. As for restarting the Battle Thread. Why is that needed again. Just mod some posts or keep it the same. I feel i already proved you can have more than one eagle. Thats all.
DWARVES RULE!!!!
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Post by Manwë Súlimo on Aug 16, 2007 8:44:29 GMT -5
Okey I see you people have some problems with understanding the rules about dragons and eagles, well let me inform you even if it may be difficult to tell lol.
The meaning about that you can have many dragons in your army but only one in a battle is cause of this: when a battle has started the evil can only have one dragon and the forces of light can have 8 eagles who are as strong as one dragon. If a dragon dies you can summon the next one who is in your army, but not yet in battle, onto the battlefield but only the dragon lord can have wings, the rest have to be on foot cause they do not have wings. If a person has a dragon/fell beast for their own it will mean the same as the rules for those as above, only one dragon/fell beast can be in one battle at a time...the rest has to wait for their turn to come.
Hope you understand.
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Post by Khamûl on Aug 16, 2007 10:37:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I was going to ask about Fell Beasts too... I thought they should be the same as Eagles, though as the Fell Beasts and the Eagles are fairly evenly matched. So either eight Fell Beasts or one Dragon in a battle and only eight Eagles allowed in one battle? Also, I would suggest that the main dragon could breathe fire and have wings, but the rest may either breathe fire or have wings but not both. Gurth, it's Glaurung.  And Ancalagon was the first dragon, he was the most powerful. Then came Glaurung and Smaug, the others were nowhere near as powerful. |
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Post by Manwë Súlimo on Aug 16, 2007 17:59:14 GMT -5
Sure, we can say one fell beast is the same as one eagle and that a dragon is the same as 8 eagles. But yes, either 8 fell beast or one dragon on the evil side and yeah only the dragon lord can breathe fire and have wings while the rest are just simple dragons on foot without fire. Good I like it, it`s settled then. The rest is up to you...
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Post by Christian on Aug 19, 2007 21:40:25 GMT -5
Hey guys, can someone now reset the map so i can see what is going on?
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And Ancalagon was the first dragon, he was the most powerful. Then came Glaurung and Smaug, the others were nowhere near as powerful. 
