A battle begins OOC

[Christian]

Anyway....just one request. Can everyone delete all ooc from the battle thread. Thanks

[Khamûl]

There is no posting order... We have already agreed that, no need to vote.

EDIT: Also, I have deleted all posts that are only OOC in the Battle thread.

[Faeora]

Gurth, here is what you said..
"Posting order is retarded. No offense to anyone. For instance. Say i am last in the order and the person who is third attacks My person. I can't defend against that attack for like six posts and who knows how long that could take to transpire"

here is what i said about 6 posts before it

" He has a perfect spot over me, because every attack i make, he has full control to make a counter to said attack, but i'll have to wait 6 other posts (which knowing half of the people in the fight could take days) to counter!!!!!! That system is flawed, we should just post WHENEVER we feel necessary, screw order and organization"

erm.. lol...I don't know whether to say 'thanks for saying it again' or 'great minds think alike' lol

[Gurth Ironclaw]

Yeah. Well i was just restating you tis all.

[Neurion]

If you look at the map you will see that Harad and Brownlands are both the same distance from mordor. I would also like to point out that i was gathering the army in in Near Harad which is loacted closer to mordor than Brownlands...soooooo... Why do I have to wait three days when your allies can appear at your side in less than one when they are further from mordor than me??

[Gandalf]

Yes exactly but Brownland do not have any mountains to cross as your country have, see here is another map of the roads they had to walk.

Your army had to walk all around Mordor into Khand and then take the road inside Mordor up to the fields of Gorgoroth and then some other mountains untill you reached the Black Gate while Brownland just had to go south.

[Gurth Ironclaw]

I noticed someone was using Dragons in the Battle. Um to my knowledge Smaug was the last Dragon in Middle Earth and he was slain......so why are there dragons? And if we allow the dragons then dragons will whip up on the Eagles. Just make sure that the eagles are aware of that.

[Faeora]

the eagles are well aware, and I was well aware that there were no more dragons in the 3rd age, and at the end of the 3rd age..but according to elessar, we may have dragons

[Gurth Ironclaw]

Alright. I was just making sure.

[Manwë Súlimo]

Okey well just to drop some info to you people that are fighting, here is the rules for the dragons and eagles if you not already have seen it:

Dragon rules(evil lands)
1. Dragon's MUST have a master. They must be ruled by a superior, if it dies then you need to find another one that can take over.
2. Dragon's are not invincible and can get injured.
3. Dragon's cannot destroy a village or a character without consent from the person who rules the character/village.
4. Only one dragon can be present per assault.
5. Dragon's have the ability to put spells upon people (only if the character consents to it.)
6. You can have many dragons in your army but only one can be used in battle.
7. Only the dragon leader can have wings, the rest need to go on foot….cause not
Every dragon had wings.

Eagle Rules( Good lands)
1. Eagles MUST have a master. They must be ruled by a superior.
2. Eagles are not invincible and can get injured.
3. Eagles cannot destroy a village or a character without consent from the person who rules the character/village.
4. You can only have 8 eagles in your army.

[Gandalf]

Seems like some do not want to take any losses on their side, aham. When the eagles came with those rocks that would uttarly smashed a fellbeast/dragon down cause of the stones weight or get smashed by the armour and small stones falls into the head of your troops. Also Khamul or any other nazguls do not have magic, only wizards or wizard apprentices with staff can have magic according to the rules and therefor the shield around the one tower would not be possible if not by any wizard or witch. That tower will fall no matter what happends cause nothing have the power to stop that stone that is falling towards it, the only thing you can do is to flee from that tower or take cover. Faeora and Gandalf are not able to do anything else in that battle now cause they are in a middle of a duel and so it is only each other they must think about and nothing else, none of them can help. And its unfair we take heavly losses while you others stands there and say you dont get hit at all just some few scratches..just to inform you all.

[Faeora]

just to inform you, that's bullshit. You sit there and say you've got damn walls everywhere, "aham", and that not a single man got hurt when like 3000 arrows were shot at you, and then you said something along the lines of "They uncovered themselves then shot a volley of arrows" and then they just cover themselvs up again, behind these shields that magically are taking NO DAMAGE, yet i protect 4 dragons and you go crazy? that's nuckin futs to me. Don't complain because we godmode twice if you guys godmode every other second...just to inform YOU, oh and btw, All of the nazgul had magic, they could tap into the abyss. Maybe if you read the books, you would even know that it was a Nazgul that broke gandalf's staff, through magic....and that nazgul didn't use a staff if I remember correctly..

[Gandalf]

I am not god moding at all, I have writen that may troops get hit all the time while yours are almost unvincable were you stand thinking the dragons can defend all or magic shields for that matter. We are at war Faeora, we are allowed to go crazy within such things. Thats the meaning with the whole war, you cant just await while shooting and think you will win without getting resistance back. The walls are legaly built if you think they are not, you could done the same long time ago but you never have so we have exstra walls on our hands and LOOK here is a outcast from the AFQ in the rule board:

Q: Can anybody use magic, or is it just wizards?

A: Just Wizards and their Apprentices can wield magic. As far as I know, of my knowledge from Tolkien’s work, even wizards had a limited magic, and those that were wizards had been sent from.

Q: I don’t really like the idea of walking around with a staff! Is it really not possible to do magic without? If not, can I use something closer to a wand?

A: Yes, you can use a wand. Though staffs are the most major prospect associated to a wizard, other then their hat. Though if you prefer to use a wand, be our Ranger.

Q: Can swords do magic?

A: No. Swords are not a magical weapon. They can be deemed magic, for stealing evil life, but they can possess no real magic.

[Khamûl]

Gandalf pmed me about Khamul using magic, so I replied with this:

Nazgul have magic... The Witch-King broke Gandalf's staff for crying out loud! Also, to quote http://www.tuckborough.net;

"At dawn on March 15, the battering ram Grond was brought to the Gate of Minas Tirith. The Witch-king cried words of terror and power in an ancient tongue and Grond broke down the Gate."

Thus, he used magic. In addition to that, the Nazgul's "Black Breath" was a form of magic.

Also, tha Black Gate is protected by very powerful magic, it cannot be broken by mere rocks - Also, I didn't need to use a shield spell as if you looked it up, you would see that Narchost and Carchost were both protected by the same magic as the Gate itself, so mere rocks would just bounce off.

[Gandalf]

Well actually the walls was distroyed so the magic is gone, you have rebuilt it without any magic attacted to it. It was built with the help of the ring and since the ring was distroyed everything that was built with the ring fell apart.

"The Black Gate of Mordor was originally a gate built by Sauron, the Dark Lord of Mordor, to prevent invasion at the gap between the Ered Lithui and the Ephel Duath. It was probably built with the power of the One Ring, like the Barad-dûr. After Sauron's fall, it became a Númenorean garrison. Backed up on the other side by the Isenmouthe, and protected by the castle of Durthang to the west, it was redesigned to keep all of Mordor's evil inside, shielding the outside from it - and it from the outside. The reconstruction of Minas Ithil, Tower of the Rising Moon, as well as the construction of Cirith Ungol were also done for the same purpose.

However, during the aftermath of the Kin-strife in Gondor the watchfulness of the guards in these strongholds relaxed. Thus the Ringwraiths and Orcs re-entered Mordor, eventually overrunning the garrisons and inhabiting them for themselves. It was at this time that the tower of Minas Ithil was taken by the Nazgul, having its name changed to Minas Morgul, Tower of Sorcery.

During the War of the Ring, the Army of the West, numbering some 7,000 men, arrived at the Black Gate with the intention of drawing the Eye of Sauron away from Mount Doom, to allow Frodo the Ringbearer to cast the One Ring into the Crack of Doom within it. This they achieved, and the Ring was destroyed in the fires of Mount Doom, following which the Black Gate and the Towers of Teeth immediately collapsed."